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1937 – Billy Meier is born.
1951 – Age 14 – Billy Meier is arrested and convicted for assault and sent to youth prison.
1951 – Age 14 – Billy Meier sends a letter to 3,000 Heads of State throughout the world.
The 1951 letter was written when he was 14 and either in prison or recently released from prison, so I don't doubt that people didn't take that letter seriously and never responded to him.
1953 – Age 16 – Billy Meier is arrested a second time, convicted, and sent to youth prison.
1953 – Age 16 – Billy Meier escapes from prison and joins the French Foreign Legion.
1955 – Age 18 – Billy Meier deserts from the French Foreign Legion and returns to Switzerland for prosecution. He is institutionalized for two years.
1958 – Age 21 – Billy Meier sends a letter entitled “Warning to all the governments of Europe!” (In the DVD “The Silent Revolution Of Truth” this letter is shown to have the FIGU address on it.)
The 1958 letter was written when he was 21 and most likely just released from an institution. Again, I don't doubt why people didn't take him or his letter seriously. An interesting thing about the 1958 letter is that the image of it used in the recent DVD says that it was released by FIGU, but FIGU would not be founded for another 17 years. This may just be sloppiness on the part of the filmmakers, but I do find it interesting that they would be trying to promote a document as being part of an organization that didn't even exist yet.
Regarding the letters I can a remark. I don't know if they were actually written on those dates (1951-1958) or that Meier pulled one out of his hat and wrote them much later on in time. What I do know is that those letters popped up out of nowhere.
Let me explain. I've been researching the case off and on for years now. Suddenly, I guess it's 2 or 3 years back, they appeared. I didn't see any reference to those letters in other material, Meier's contacts notes, bulletins or literature by other authors.
From recollection I also noticed something highly unusual in one of those letters, I have to guess it's the one from 1951. Basicly the letter is highly anti-American, filled with critique against the United States. That's highly unusual since we are talking about the time period just after WW2. The Brits, Canucks and Yanks just liberated Europe and were viewed as heroes and the goodguys. You'll find nothing of that sentiment in those letters. However it is consistent with Meier's writing from the 1990s on where he adopts a highly critical position against the US.
1960 – Age 23 – Billy Meier travels the Middle East as a day laborer.
1963 – Age 26 – Billy Meier and Isa Rashid engage in the grave robbing of what they claim is the tomb of Jmmanuel (aka Jesus Christ).
1964 – Age 27 – Billy Meier takes his first known photos of “UFOs” while in India.
1964 – Age 27 – Billy Meier is expelled from India on charges of vagrancy (per Timothy Good).
1965 – Age 28 – Billy Meier has his left arm partially amputated because he was hanging it outside the window of a bus when it crashed.
1967 – Age 30 – Billy Meier meets and marries Kalliope.
1975 – Age 38 – Billy Meier founds FIGU.
This case, to me, is more about his experiences with aliens rather than his personal life. He is NOT a saint by any means. Any long running case, such as this one is bound to have its share of truths and untruths. The hard part is separating the two!!!
Have you watched the dvd "The Silent Revolution of Truth"?? If not, I recommend you do so.
One thing that strikes me is that Billy has never sought fame and fortune from all this. Something that many others have done. He doesn't do radio shows or tv shows....he doesn't go on the lecture circuit....he makes no personal appearances. If anything you have to go to him, he is not going to "recruit" you.
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This case, to me, is more about his experiences with aliens rather than his personal life. He is NOT a saint by any means. Any long running case, such as this one is bound to have its share of truths and untruths. The hard part is separating the two!!!
Have you watched the dvd "The Silent Revolution of Truth"?? If not, I recommend you do so.
One thing that strikes me is that Billy has never sought fame and fortune from all this. Something that many others have done. He doesn't do radio shows or tv shows....he doesn't go on the lecture circuit....he makes no personal appearances. If anything you have to go to him, he is not going to "recruit" you.
Not the point. The idea is that research is an ongoing long drawn out quest for answers. Hence the prefix RE before the word SEARCH. There is a cause and effect scenario going on here, and if he was institutionalized early on, that could be a window to a greater problem. I am not going to be able to present ANYTHING on this for a LONG time. Hence it would be better for those acquainted with this topic to do added research on Billy's mental state before all this began. If he was unstable, and had a brain injury on top of it all, it could answer a lot of questions.
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Billy is one of the most researched and investigated men in this field!!! WE are not psychologists...at least I'm not!!!
This is just another attempt to discredit him from yet another armchair psychologist!!
Don't feel bad though....you are not the first.....nor the last!!!
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Of course its a fake ..just like Meier is.
Nuff said....move along, nothing to see here.
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Of course its a fake ..just like Meier is.
Nuff said....move along, nothing to see here.
Only a true genius can say so much with so few words, I am so not worthy!
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Only a true genius can say so much with so few words, I am so not worthy!
Thanks for the kind words....your ck is in the mail.
What amazes me is how people still believe the malarky around Meier.
I studied his case when it first went public in the early 80's via the book Light Years by Kinder and then other books and eventually online when the web was up.
Meier's whole history/bio is full of Trickster qualities and events during his early years and years spent in India. His background is full of irregular activities and possibly even some criminal ones including a stint as a mercenary soldier. Actually it would make a fascinating adventure film, fiction of course, about a rogue who in his later life found a claim to fame as an 'alien contactee'.
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Fine...you don't believe Meier......now let those of us who DO want to discuss this case proceed!!!!
Perhaps you can better spend your time rereading Vallee's books!!!!
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Dr Wu
Fine...you don't believe Meier......now let those of us who DO want to discuss this case proceed!!!!
Perhaps you can better spend your time rereading Vallee's books!!!!
You might try that rather than wasting your time on a charlatan like Meier....oh, sorry it is your time.
Go ahead...feel free to waste it.
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Anything that helps me take my mind off my problems rigtt now....is a welcome thing!!
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I know that Semjase suffered a head injury and did not have contact with Billy for a few years. Is that what you mean?
Semjase...? Oh..you mean the one whose image was copied from a catalog and later from an old TV show ?
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1951 – Age 14 – Billy Meier is arrested and convicted for assault and sent to youth prison.
1951 – Age 14 – Billy Meier sends a letter to 3,000 Heads of State throughout the world.
The 1951 letter was written when he was 14 and either in prison or recently released from prison, so I don't doubt that people didn't take that letter seriously and never responded to him.
1953 – Age 16 – Billy Meier is arrested a second time, convicted, and sent to youth prison.
1953 – Age 16 – Billy Meier escapes from prison and joins the French Foreign Legion.
1955 – Age 18 – Billy Meier deserts from the French Foreign Legion and returns to Switzerland for prosecution. He is institutionalized for two years.
1958 – Age 21 – Billy Meier sends a letter entitled “Warning to all the governments of Europe!” (In the DVD “The Silent Revolution Of Truth” this letter is shown to have the FIGU address on it.)
The 1958 letter was written when he was 21 and most likely just released from an institution. Again, I don't doubt why people didn't take him or his letter seriously. An interesting thing about the 1958 letter is that the image of it used in the recent DVD says that it was released by FIGU, but FIGU would not be founded for another 17 years. This may just be sloppiness on the part of the filmmakers, but I do find it interesting that they would be trying to promote a document as being part of an organization that didn't even exist yet.
Regarding the letters I can a remark. I don't know if they were actually written on those dates (1951-1958) or that Meier pulled one out of his hat and wrote them much later on in time. What I do know is that those letters popped up out of nowhere.
Let me explain. I've been researching the case off and on for years now. Suddenly, I guess it's 2 or 3 years back, they appeared. I didn't see any reference to those letters in other material, Meier's contacts notes, bulletins or literature by other authors.
From recollection I also noticed something highly unusual in one of those letters, I have to guess it's the one from 1951. Basicly the letter is highly anti-American, filled with critique against the United States. That's highly unusual since we are talking about the time period just after WW2. The Brits, Canucks and Yanks just liberated Europe and were viewed as heroes and the goodguys. You'll find nothing of that sentiment in those letters. However it is consistent with Meier's writing from the 1990s on where he adopts a highly critical position against the US.
1960 – Age 23 – Billy Meier travels the Middle East as a day laborer.
1963 – Age 26 – Billy Meier and Isa Rashid engage in the grave robbing of what they claim is the tomb of Jmmanuel (aka Jesus Christ).
1964 – Age 27 – Billy Meier takes his first known photos of “UFOs” while in India.
1964 – Age 27 – Billy Meier is expelled from India on charges of vagrancy (per Timothy Good).
1965 – Age 28 – Billy Meier has his left arm partially amputated because he was hanging it outside the window of a bus when it crashed.
1967 – Age 30 – Billy Meier meets and marries Kalliope.
1975 – Age 38 – Billy Meier founds FIGU.
This case, to me, is more about his experiences with aliens rather than his personal life. He is NOT a saint by any means. Any long running case, such as this one is bound to have its share of truths and untruths. The hard part is separating the two!!!
Have you watched the dvd "The Silent Revolution of Truth"?? If not, I recommend you do so.
One thing that strikes me is that Billy has never sought fame and fortune from all this. Something that many others have done. He doesn't do radio shows or tv shows....he doesn't go on the lecture circuit....he makes no personal appearances. If anything you have to go to him, he is not going to "recruit" you.
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This case, to me, is more about his experiences with aliens rather than his personal life. He is NOT a saint by any means. Any long running case, such as this one is bound to have its share of truths and untruths. The hard part is separating the two!!!
Have you watched the dvd "The Silent Revolution of Truth"?? If not, I recommend you do so.
One thing that strikes me is that Billy has never sought fame and fortune from all this. Something that many others have done. He doesn't do radio shows or tv shows....he doesn't go on the lecture circuit....he makes no personal appearances. If anything you have to go to him, he is not going to "recruit" you.
Not the point. The idea is that research is an ongoing long drawn out quest for answers. Hence the prefix RE before the word SEARCH. There is a cause and effect scenario going on here, and if he was institutionalized early on, that could be a window to a greater problem. I am not going to be able to present ANYTHING on this for a LONG time. Hence it would be better for those acquainted with this topic to do added research on Billy's mental state before all this began. If he was unstable, and had a brain injury on top of it all, it could answer a lot of questions.
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Billy is one of the most researched and investigated men in this field!!! WE are not psychologists...at least I'm not!!!
This is just another attempt to discredit him from yet another armchair psychologist!!
Don't feel bad though....you are not the first.....nor the last!!!
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Of course its a fake ..just like Meier is.
Nuff said....move along, nothing to see here.
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Of course its a fake ..just like Meier is.
Nuff said....move along, nothing to see here.
Only a true genius can say so much with so few words, I am so not worthy!
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Only a true genius can say so much with so few words, I am so not worthy!
Thanks for the kind words....your ck is in the mail.
What amazes me is how people still believe the malarky around Meier.
I studied his case when it first went public in the early 80's via the book Light Years by Kinder and then other books and eventually online when the web was up.
Meier's whole history/bio is full of Trickster qualities and events during his early years and years spent in India. His background is full of irregular activities and possibly even some criminal ones including a stint as a mercenary soldier. Actually it would make a fascinating adventure film, fiction of course, about a rogue who in his later life found a claim to fame as an 'alien contactee'.
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Fine...you don't believe Meier......now let those of us who DO want to discuss this case proceed!!!!
Perhaps you can better spend your time rereading Vallee's books!!!!
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Dr Wu
Fine...you don't believe Meier......now let those of us who DO want to discuss this case proceed!!!!
Perhaps you can better spend your time rereading Vallee's books!!!!
You might try that rather than wasting your time on a charlatan like Meier....oh, sorry it is your time.
Go ahead...feel free to waste it.
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Anything that helps me take my mind off my problems rigtt now....is a welcome thing!!
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I know that Semjase suffered a head injury and did not have contact with Billy for a few years. Is that what you mean?
Semjase...? Oh..you mean the one whose image was copied from a catalog and later from an old TV show ?
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Saturday 2 October 2010
50/50
Another day that I made 50$
Slept pretty much the wholed day while it rained like crazy.
Played at library (new locvation) then at the bank where I atracted lots of attention
and then cop comes to move me (grrrr)
Slept pretty much the wholed day while it rained like crazy.
Played at library (new locvation) then at the bank where I atracted lots of attention
and then cop comes to move me (grrrr)
Kara and Kris
They were here last night,and jesse on the phone.
We discussed conspiracies,jammed and recorded,ate chesse,
I showed them my website. Same day I had seen kara and kris on radio station singing.
Jesse talke to them on the phone...all discussed how they thought of me.
We discussed conspiracies,jammed and recorded,ate chesse,
I showed them my website. Same day I had seen kara and kris on radio station singing.
Jesse talke to them on the phone...all discussed how they thought of me.
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